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Because there's one narrative in China, folks, and this douchebag knows what it is.
But seriously, don't buy what he's selling.
The only narrative China needs right now is its victory lap. It's nearly stopped new cases. Xi visited Hebei/Wuhan.
The comment above is wishful thinking of the highest order, and perfect projection. It's Western media and nincompoops like this clown who seem to need to play the "blame game"
China got on with solving the problem. Now they're taking a victory lap and responding to requests to help overseas. The Chinese, if they are blaming anyone, are not blaming foreigners for this, they're blaming the Hebei provincial authorities for their initial mistakes in handling it.
Because they've been successful at containing a virus in the largest country on Earth, they don't need to play the blame game. It's slow-to-act and complacement Western-style governments that are in desperate need of a finger of blame to point at anyone but themselves.
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Because they know that the worse the crisis gets, the harsher the economical consequences for China will be.
Countries and citizens remember where the virus comes from, like they do for SARS and it they will put pressure on their governments to move production elsewhere.
I think China will be "punished" anyways, regardless when this crisis ends. There's no way globalization will continue in the future, governments will force companies to move production of essential supplies (food, medicine, raw materials) back locally to make their economies resilient to similar shocks in the future.
Fortunately, for China, the country is starting to have enough local consumption that it probably doesn't need to be just an export hub any more (but undoubtedly it will hurt).
Edit: this will, I predict, hurt Western companies & shareholders as well. I expect many companies to be much more rigorously stress-tested for supply chain and/or labour issues, similar to how banks are stress-tested for credit issues. This will mean thinner margins, lower profits.
Obviously, which is why I'm guessing it will be centrally enforced (laws by governments). Not for companies like Uber or Netflix, but whatever is consider "essential" (medicine, energy, food, raw metals, ...).
Frankly I'm on the side that the Chinese are acting in good faith here. They have every motivation to do so. Stamping out the virus worldwide is for them a first order national priority.
It’s not necessarily an act of charity. China has a vested interest in looking like the country capable of leading the world out of the pandemic, especially as Trump continues to stumble and alienate the rest of the world - it’s the same game of politics that all countries play all the time.
Crises are how rising powers become dominant powers - WW2 was the crisis that propelled America past UK to become the worlds dominant power.
You are a plain fool if you don't understand that the CCP literally sets the narrative out of China, imposed with force. Tow the line or, at best, lose social credit points, at worst enjoy your permanent stay at gulag.
The Soviet Union only collapsed some 30 years ago. The CCCP was literally the model that the CCP is based on. Don't be naive.
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One of the headline news from a couple of days ago, voicing support for Foreign Ministry Spokesperson's conspiracy rant on twitter. It's bizarre and make Chinese Gov look extremely childish.
Drop the China bashing. If we're going to criticize any government on this issue, we need to criticize all of them.
Was there really any government without guilt or incompetence in their handling of this?
Really nobody who in any way delayed taking steps, nobody who in any way sat on information, nobody who in any way instructed a certain type of scale of coverage in an attempt to minimize panic?
Let those without sin cast the first stone.
But actually, I think the "blame game" is bullshit.
Everyone should just be like, "Holy crap, this virus doesn't care about what passport you have, we all need to just work together on this."
Good to see people contesting the blame narrative here, but better if we didn't promote this news at all. This is a highly technical site, surely there's a chance to share articles about studies, algorithms, ways data scientists/programmers/bioinformaticians can get involved, pool resources, donate cloud time, etc.
I don't think it's fair to criticize all governments (or forms of government) equally.
In our town (New Jersey, USA), several parents decided to keep their kids home from school as the virus spread nearby, even as the school stayed open. Evidently (https://www.nytimes.com/video/world/asia/100000006970549/cor...) in other forms of government, the government itself controls what information is available (and the ability of citizens to make prudential judgments).
That doesn't mean this virus is "China's fault." As you say, all governments demonstrated some form of incompetence (usually starting with the assumption it can't be that bad). There is here an interesting contrast in how two systems respond to incompetence. Since surely how we disseminate information is important to the response to the virus, it seems fair to point out how one system disproportionately impedes how that happens.
Ok, let's call it CPC bashing then, if that makes you feel better. What they have done during this whole debacle is despicable, and their attempts to push the conspiracy theory that the virus came from the US Military is just the icing on the cake.
Please stop with this flamewar now, and please stop posting flamebait and/or unsubstantive comments generally. It's not what this site is for and we've had to warn you already.
Let's call it "Westerners blaming China to feel better, while they all get the virus anyway". Seems to be Western-style policy in a nutshell right now.
If you call saving millions of Chinese people despicable, it sounds like you're to be despised.
The cake isn't cooked yet, but Western governments are already eager to play the blame game, while China got on with getting results. Nearly zero new cases. Contained to Hebei.
You've been reading fake news... and worse, believing it. They're not pushing a conspiracy theory. They're taking a victory lap.
The comments about it being a bio weapon are from the FM, who is just volleying back Pompeo's comment about it being the "China virus". That's all it is. Tit for tat. If you believe everyone in China is obsessed with blaming the US for the virus origins, or, worse, that Chinese people believe it's a bioweapon, you're wrong, sorry.
They contained a crazy new pathogen in the biggest country on Earth, they don't need to play the blame game, and domestically their media is taking a victory lap. It's just revealing of Western incompetence, and insecurity that Western media is fanning these blaming narratives.
If you want to make me feel better, I thank you. Start by admitting your pro-Western propoganda does not tell you what's really happening in China.
Please stop with this flamewar now, and please stop posting in the flamewar style in general, regardless of how right you are or how wrong or ignorant someone else is.
It's centered on the island of Hainan. I want to know what the center of mass is for that picture, since the humans are not uniformly distributed in that circle.
Why has this not taken off? Off-the-surface gestures seem like they'd really enrich smartphone experience. I don't get why this low power proven tech has not been incorporated into phones. It's already 8 years old!
Really? This one is a 3D sensor. Off-the-screen gestures. Have you seen people making gestures above the surface of their phones?
I haven't seen that. Why hasn't it happened yet?
edit: Anywho, let's check the Microchip website. They don't call it what you said. There's no capacitive touch on its page, just the title. It's all 3D e-field. I think you must have got the wrong chip. Where did you see it?
I guess the paradox of killing them all so quickly is it's unlikely the signal of poor quality propagates widely
first time I saw it was today and I thought it looked cool.
I think name and shame, street parade the criminal would be a good moderation idea. don't just highlight the best, highlight the worst. it helps reinforce standards
never seen a forum do that tho. it's always about the most liked
