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Bob+agents is going to be able to solve much more complex problems than Bob without agents.

That's the true AI revolution: not the things it can accelerate, the things it can put in reach that you wouldn't countenance doing before.


grug have to use big brains' thinking machine these days, or no shiny rock. complexity demon love thinking machine. grug appreciate attempt to make thinking machine talk on grug level, maybe it help keep complexity demon away.

Stop thinking like a programmer and start thinking like a business person. Invest time and energy in thinking about WHAT you want; let the LLM worry about the HOW.

The thing is that the HOW of today becomes the context of someone else's tomorrow session, that person may not be as knowledgeable about that particular part of the codebase (and the domain), their LLM will base its own solution on today's unchecked output and will, inevitably, stray a little bit further from the optimum. So far I haven't seen any mechanism and workflow that would consistently push in the opposite direction.

>let the LLM worry about the HOW.

You mean, let the LLM hallucinate about the HOW...


AI doesn't need to outrun the bear; it only needs to outrun you.

Once the tools outperform humans at the tasks to which they were applied (and they will), you don't need to be involved at all, except to give direction and final acceptance. The tools will write, and verify, the code at each step.


> Once the tools outperform humans at the tasks to which they were applied (and they will)

I don't get why some people are so convinced that this is inevitable. It's possible, yes, but it very well might be the case, that models cannot be stopped from randomly doing stupid things, cannot be made more trustworthy, cannot be made more verifiable, and will have to be relegated to the role of brainstorming aids.


>I don't get why some people are so convinced that this is inevitable.

Someone once said that It is hard to make a man understand things if their profit depends on them not understanding it...


I don't make money coding, so it doesn't apply to me in this case.

I think they meant that people insisting total genAI takeover of coding is inevitable are likely people who stand to profit greatly by everyone giving up and using the unmind machines for everything.

the original post is an example of how. Every programmer is discovering slowly, for their own usecases, that the agent can actually do it. This happens to an individual when they give it a shot without reservation..

Large scale AI datacenters require a very expensive physical supply chain that includes cheap land, water, and electricity, political leverage, human architects and builders to build datacenters, and massive capital investments. Yes, AI will outperform humans, but at some point it may become cheaper to hire a human programmer.

Wait till you hear about the resources required to sustain an equivalent number of humans.

"Expressive languages" like Lisp are for weak human minds.

Now is the time to switch to a popular language and let the machines wrangle it for you. With more training data available, you'll be far more productive in JavaScript than you ever were in Lisp.


Don't care. It's no longer up for debate: this is the future. Shape up or ship out.

Why even responding then? And are we not allowed to talk about how doing our jobs makes us feel?

If programmers like being able to pay their rent/mortgage, they'll quickly learn not to feel sad about literally the best thing to happen to software development in decades. Because otherwise they'll be replaced by someone who's delighted with it (they're not hard to find).

>who's delighted with it

A programmer who is not delighted by programming cannot be very good at it. So the same people who are "delighted" by using an LLM is the exact same people who should not be using it.

It would be like putting a person who don't know how to drive in the driving seat of a semi-autonomous driving vehicle.


The decline of intellectually stimulating work is nothing to celebrate, nor is a sort of machine-driven natural selection

Can you explain how an LLM is going to grill up and package food for my customers?

I'm able to pay rent just fine without one...


Nah, my theory is that people hyping slop programming are the sort of people who sucked at programming beforehand, and LLMs hide that pretty well.

And when they're all out of work and desperate, what then? History suggests it will turn very bloody

Is that really the future you're delighted about? Or are you just so shortsighted that you don't realize it is an inevitable outcome of mass unemployment is that the masses will eventually snap and it will get seriously ugly?


Bang on.

Start paying by the token if you want to use these tools. Simple as.

Even better: switch to Codex plus get better rate limits. I’m not a captive audience as much Anthropic would like to believe otherwise.

What if... each agent had its own virtual file system, and anything the agent needed to access was accessible as files in the filesystem?

Congratulations, you just reinvented Plan 9. I think we're going to end up reinventing a lot of things in computing that we discovered and then forgot about because Apple/Microsoft/Google couldn't monetize them, "because AI". And I don't know how to feel about that.


Oooooh, 30. Getting up there, old man! Wait till you hit your 40s and your vision starts going... you're gonna want a big-ass monitor then!

Author here, I've actually worn glasses since I was 8. :)

That's why I highlighted GNOME getting usable fractional scaling out of the box, it makes all the difference. Previously I relied on the large text accessibility feature, but toggling it on/off depending on what monitor I used was a pain.


Just get reading glasses. You'll need them anyway.

I'm actually nearsighted enough that I don't need readers, at least not yet. But my ability to accommodate has diminished, and as far away as I sit from the screen the myopia starts to kick in and even with corrective lenses it becomes difficult to resolve small text because my eyes can no longer make fine focus adjustments. So yes please, big-ass screen, big-ass fonts.

(And the behavior of any given C implementation is completely defined.)

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