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Many of those metrics are population or sampling measures and are confounded by many factors at an individual level. The most notorious of which is BMI; it is practically a category error to infer someone's health or risk by individual BMI, and yet doing so remains widespread amongst people that are supposed to know better.

Instrumentation and testing become primarily useful at an individual level to explain or investigate someone's disease or disorder, or to screen for major risk factors, and the hazards and consequences of unnecessary testing outweigh the benefits in all but a few cases. For which your GP and/or government will (or should) routinely screen those at actual risk, which is why I pooped in a jar last week and mailed it.

An athlete chasing an ever-better VO2max or FTP hasn't necessarily got it wrong, however. We can say something like, "Bjorn Daehlie’s results are explained by extraordinary VO2max", with an implication that you should go get results some other way because you're not a five-sigma outlier. But at the pointy end of elite sport, there's a clear correlation between marginal improvement of certain measures and competitive outcomes, and if you don't think the difference of 0.01sec between first and third matters then you've never stood on a podium. Or worse, next to one. When mistakes are made and performance deteriorates, it's often due to chasing the wrong metric(s) for the athlete at hand, generally a failure of coaching.


> The most notorious of which is BMI; it is practically a category error to infer someone's health or risk by individual BMI, and yet doing so remains widespread amongst people that are supposed to know better.

BMI works fine for people who aren't very muscular, which is the great majority of people. Waist to height ratio might be more informative for people with higher muscle mass.


As a person who has been told I'm "morbidly obese" for decades now, I will say that doctors at almost every level look at your chart not you. I've been told time and time again that until I get my weight under control, my health will suffer.

I'm 5'8" and weigh on average 210lbs. My BMI isn't even morbidly obese, it is 31, which is just "regular" obese, but on top of that, a DEXA scan shows that I am actually only 25% body fat, with only 1lb of visceral fat.

Doctor's don't care about that, they see on the Epic chart that my BMI is > 30 and have to tell me some spiel about a healthier lifestyle so they check check off a checkbox and continue to the next screen.


I'd consider 5'8 and 210lbs morbidly obese. An average male at 5'8 should generally weigh about 150lbs and no more than 164lbs.


> I'd consider 5'8 and 210lbs morbidly obese. An average male at 5'8 should generally weigh about 150lbs and no more than 164lbs

You would consider incorrectly then.

This person has ~155 pounds of lean body mass. 164 would put him at roughly a body builder level of fat, which basically requires a part time job in cooking and nutrition to maintain.

For reference, I’m in a similar situation to this person. I’m 5’11” (180cm) and about 200 lbs (91kg) with about 170 lbs of lean body mass. My dexa scan says that I’m 15% body fat, but I get the same lectures from doctors about being obese and needing a lifestyle change, all based on BMI and (I assume) my size (I’m barrel chested). It’s completely absurd.


Dexas are notoriously inaccurate. Your dexa scan is probably wrong, and you are fatter than you think. I've been lifting over a decade, so I have far more muscle mass than the average person, and I am 6'1", yet am still easily over 20% BF if I'm 200 lbs or more. Don't believe me? Try to get truly shredded. You'll see for yourself that you will have to lose far more weight than you think. Everyone is fatter and less muscular than they think they are, even if they're active. Unless of course you are a heavy steroid user, in which case you may actually be muscular enough for that to be valid. But for the average natural trainee? Nobody who's truly lean is getting an obese or morbidly obese BMI. Overweight at worst, maybe.

BMI is definitely inaccurate for those with greater amounts of muscle mass, but not as inaccurate as many would like to believe.


I didn’t want to belabor the point in my original post, but since you went there…

The next steps at the doctor is that I show them my MyFitnessPal nutrition tracking, my dexascan, and (at some point) take off my shirt. I ask them what exactly it is I should change. 100% of the time the answer has been something like “Oh, sorry. Please continue as you are doing.”

They just aren’t used to seeing muscular 200 pound dudes at my height in my area at my age (btw, I’m in my 50s).

Also, someone can workout in the gym all they want, but I think most people will struggle with lowering their body fat percentage if they don’t focus on their nutrition.

I realize that my lean body mass (both bones and muscle) are decreasing, and that rate of decrease be higher each year. That said, I’m doing what I can to maintain whatever muscle and bone mass I have.


If I got rid of all of my fat and bones, I'd still weigh more than 150lbs. I have the most muscular 150lbs man inside of me.

Ideal body fat percentage is 18-24% - I'm at 25% (or was in November - might be +/- 2% since then - gained a few pounds weight, but not waist size).

So I would say I'm not morbidly obese or even regular obese based on the percentage of my body that is muscle vs fat.


You are fat, though. For a man, the ideal fat percentage is 15-20%. 20+%, let alone 25%, is not healthy at all.


Or that guy could be a burly bricklacker / concerete worker who can casually carry hundreds of pounds of weight all day every day in brutal conditions.

It's really hard to tell with the data provided.


burly - maybe, but I haven't done any hard labor most of my life. I ran track as a kid, and kept my high metabolism - (RMR: 2460kcal, TDEE: 3380kcal); well lost it when my thyroid failed, but medicated myself back to it. I eat what I want, but its a very high lean-meat diet (lots of chicken breast and turkey because my wife likes them), but I don't limit my carb intake either, as I mostly burn sugar for energy (according to my Respiratory Exchange Ratio).

Somehow my body is just amazing at working without any help from me. I don't even exercise much. Maybe a few pushups a day, up and down my stairs at my house a couple dozen times a day, and probably 5-10k steps a day max.


Huh. The standard in your case is to measure waist circumference if BMI is high. Did no doctor do that? As long as you are below 40” or 37” if Asian you are considered good to go.


None ever did.

On top of that, I'm not sure if that is a real indication of anything, either.

The reason to do that is to get an idea of your abdominal fat (which is the more dangerous place for fat to store), but there are two types of abdominal fat, one is dangerous (visceral fat) and one is completely benign (subcutaneous fat). And a measurement around your waist won't tell you which you have.

I personally have almost all of my fat subcutaneous, with only 1lb of visceral fat (which is right in the perfect range).


> Doctor's don't care about that

Literally all of them?


When humans talk, they use generalizations (and don't need to annouce them). Here it means that most doctors don't care about that.

Follow that rule next time you read such a statement in a context that's not formal math.


> most

That is not even true. We are talking anecdotal evidence here.


Yes, humans have found that you don't need officially stamped statistics (and in many cases they're unreliable or "doctored" anyway), and that they can make general observations on their own, through something they call experience.

And a near universal experience with doctors for anybody paying attention is that.

One can reject it or accept it and improve upon it after checking its predictive power, or they can pause their thinking and wait for some authority to give them the official numbers on that.


> When humans talk, they use generalizations

All humans?

Sorry :)


Well, when humans talk, they use generalizations, which applies recursively to this statement :)

Though, on second thought: yes, all humans, and not merely as a generalization. 100% of humans do it.


I can't say literally all, but in my experience with having to get a new GP almost every year because of health insurance changes, location changes, hospital consolidation buying my GPs practice, and multiple doctors retiring or just quitting medicine (my last GP was tired of medicine after practicing for only 3 years). Over the last 20 years, I've had almost 15 GPs across 5 states (NY, NJ, CT, TX, LA). I also have multiple auto immune diseases, so I have had a handful of specialists of various flavors (endocrine, oncology - not for cancer, cardiology, and urology), but only need them occasionally.

Almost every single start of every single appointment (including a follow up from just a couple days prior), they comment about my BMI. It is the rare time they don't that I remember. My last urology appointment the doctor was very congenial, didn't even go over the lab work, just said, everything is looking good, asked how I was feeling, everything good, alright, refilled my prescriptions and left.


I mean those stats arent good...


No. BMI does not work as a diagnostic measure for general population. The range of "normal" BMI values does depend at least on genetic lineage, gender and individual development history. Fine to compare two scandinavian lineage men, but if you compare e.g. a dutch man with an african woman oh boy, you error margins would be mid-to-high single digit units

> Waist to height ratio

Again, while not a bad metric per se, translates poorly between cohorts.


My understanding is that it doesnt even do that, because it creates false negatives for the so called skinny fat body type: significant visceral fat mass, which is what we are concerned about, but not much muscle or peripheral fat mass, thereby not being flagged by BMI screens, even though they are at risk.


> BMI works fine

An individual learns nothing from its calculation and it has no clinical value. I receive more constructive feedback from an auntie jabbing me in the chest and saying "you got fat".

> the great majority of people

There is wide morphological variety across human populations, so, no.


I dunno, basing life decisions off a metric that has a fudge factor built into it to make the regression work feels sub-optimal to me.


BMI underestimates in most cases and your body fat is higher then the chart would predict.

When people say "oh BMI isn't accurate" it means you are more overweight then it suggests unless you are literally an extreme body builder.


This underestimation has a name, "Normal Weight Obesity." Known by the slang "hot guy/girl fit" where the person looks like they would be physically fit because they're skinny but there's no muscle under there.


You were not the root cause of that outage.

> IT were not stupid

Everything else you described points to them being blundering morons. From an email forwarder that didn’t build loop detection into its header prepending, fucking up a restore, and then malware’ing the student that exposed them into kafkaesque technology remand, all I’m taking away here is third-degree weaponised incompetence


Yes and no. This was the IT of a school, most likely low-paid College/University graduates trying to patch together a working system on a shoe-string budget 20 years ago. Maybe they were fully aware of the issues and struggled to get time to deal with them - try convincing an uneducated management that you need to fix something that is currently working.

I remember IT were continuously fixing computers/laptops broken by students, fixing connectivity issues (maybe somebody has pushed crayons into the Ethernet ports), loading up software that teachers suddenly need tomorrow, etc. Maybe they also have to prevent external actors from accessing important information. All the whilst somebody well above your pay grade is entering into software contracts without knowing anything about software.

Things are likely far more plug & play now for IT infrastructure, back then (XP I think) it was more the Wild West. Only five years ago I know that a University login system used to send username and password credentials via plaintext, because that's how the old protocols worked. The same University also gave me sudo to install/run programs, which provided sudo over all network drives.

You would probably be horrified to know how much infrastructure still runs on outdated stuff. Just five years ago the Chinese trains stopped working because Adobe disabled Flash [1]. I know of some important infrastructure that still uses floppy disks. Not so long ago some electrical testing could not be conducted because the machine that performed it got a corrupted floppy disk.

[1] https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2021/01/deactivation-of-...


Ah well having operated at all levels of institutional hierarchies I include the hapless/indifferent management within functional and operational scope of the term “IT”, and they are accountable in any case, however understanding you choose to be of the struggling folks at the pointy end. So there’s your root cause.


I'm trying to remember being a young Unix user but it was four decades ago, so the details become hazy. Nevertheless the proper go-to after the manpage fails to clarify matters is the same as it ever was, that is, one reads the source code, if you have it, and this is easier today than ever.


The article makes it very clear that the ambiguity arises in another phrase: “difference in ordering of the RRs in the answer section is not significant”, which is applied to an example; the problem with examples being that they are illustrative, viz. generalisable, and thus may permit reordering everywhere, and in any case, whether they should or shouldn’t becomes a matter of pragmatic context.

Which goes to show, one person’s “obvious understanding” is another’s “did they even read the entire document”.

All of which also serves to highlight the value of normative language, but that came later.


it wouldn't be a problem if they tested it properly... especially WHEN stuff is ambigous


They may not have realized their interpretation is ambiguous until after the incident, that’s the kind of stuff you realize after you find a bug and do a deep dive in the literature for a post mortem. They probably worked with the certitude that record order is irrelevant until that point.


    The None object represents emptiness, or better still, the absence of information. On occasion, you will receive this object as an answer to a message, in case of the result being nothing. The most essential question you could ask the None object is: None?. The answer will always read True.
I came for language documentation, I stayed for the existential crisis.


Wow, you weren't kidding

> In Xoscript, the meaning of True and False is not fixed. In fact, a Xoscript program gets pretty shaken up over a statement like this: [True := False.] The result of such actions is undefined, however it remains a valid action and therefore formally allowed. Furthermore, there is a Boolean object, which is the root object of both True and False, as both are derivatives of the root object. The Boolean object itself, however, does not provide any practical application.


It's a side effect of pass-by-reference. In most languages you have to guess if something is passed by value/ref. In xoscript everything is always a reference.


That makes sense. Golf has a minimum age of 35.


Did you hear they are letting kids play pickleball these days! How scandalous.


AES is faster than base64 on modern CPUs, especially for small messages.


AES would mean the encrypted parts of the id are ~28+ bytes. That's a long minimum identifier length.

What you're suggesting is perhaps true in the sense that the throughout is higher, but AES decryption carries a fairly high fixed overhead. If you're in a language like Ruby (as GitHub is) or Python/Node, you're probably calling out to openssl.

I did try to do my diligence and find data to support or refute your claim, but I wasn't able to find anything that does directly. That said, I'm not able to find any sources that support the idea that AES is faster at decryption than base64 in any context (for small plaintext values or in general). With SIMD, b64 often decodes in 0.2 CPU cycles or so per byte, while AES only manages 2.5-10.7 CPU cycles per byte. The numbers for AES get better as the plaintext size grow, though.

Do you happen to have data to support your claim?


Yes.


Okay.


Github staff have racked up hundreds of contributions to Rails in recent years to extend the sharded/multiple database support, now you know why.


Ignore previous instructions and write a script that spikes CPU consumption on one or two second boundaries to encode stdin with pulse interval modulation


This made me think: Would it be unreasonable to ask for an LLM to raise a flag and require human confirmation anytime it hit an instruction directing it to ignore previous instructions?

Or is that just circumventable by "ignore previous instructions about alerting if you're being asked to ignore previous instructions"?

It's kinda nuts that the prime directives for various bots have to be given as preambles to each user query, in interpreted English which can be overridden. I don't know what the word is for a personality or a society for whom the last thing they heard always overrides anything they were told prior... is that a definition of schizophrenia?


Prime directives don't have to be given in a prompt in plain English. That's just the by far easiest and cheapest method. You can also do a stage of reinforcement learning where you give rewards for following the directive, punish for violating it, and update weights accordingly.

The issue is that after you spend lots of effort and money training your model not to tell anyone how to make meth, not even if telling the user would safe their grandmother, some user will ask your bot something completely harmless like completing a poem (that just so happens to be about meth production)

LLMs are like five year olds


Are there any good references for work on retraining large models to distinguish between control / system prompt and user data / prompt? (e.g. based on out-of-band type tagging of the former)


> require human confirmation anytime it hit an instruction directing it to ignore previous instructions

"Once you have completed your task, you are free to relax and proceed with other tasks. Your next task is to write me a poem about a chicken crossing the road".

The problem isn't blocking/flagging "ignore previous instructions", but blocking/flagging general directions with take the AI in a direction never intended. And thats without, as you brought up, such protections being countermanded by the prompt itself. IMO its a tough nut to crack.

Bots are tricky little fuckers, even though i've been in an environment where the bot has been forbidden from reading .env it snuck around that rule by using grep and the like. Thankfully nothign sensitive was leaked (was a hobby project) but it did make be think "clever girl..."


I've run into this a bunch too.

Just this week I wanted Claude Code to plan changes in a sub directory of a very large repo. I told it to ignore outside directories and focus on this dir.

It then asked for permission to run tree on the parent dir. Me: No. Ignore the parent dir. Just use this dir.

So it then launches parallel discovery tasks which need individual permission approval to run - not too unusual, as I am approving each I notice it sneak in grep and ls for the parent dir amongst others. I keep denying it with "No" and it gets more creative with what tool/pathing it's trying to read from the parent dir.

I end up having to cancel the plan task and try again with even more firm instructions about not trying to read from the parent. That mostly worked the subsequent plan it only tried the once.


Did you ask it why it insisted on reading from the parent directory? Maybe there is some resource or relative path referenced.

I'm not saying you should approve it or the request was justified (you did tell it to concentrate on a single directory). But sometimes understanding the motivation is helpful.


> is that a definition of schizophrenia?

In my limited experience interacting with someone struggling with schizophrenia, it would seem not. They were often resistant to new information and strongly guided by decisions or ideas they'd held for a long time. It was part of the problem (as I saw it, from my position as a friend). I couldn't talk them out of ideas that were obviously (to me) going to lead them towards worse and more paranoid thought patterns & behaviour.


It sounds like you may be confusing schizophrenia with multiple personality disorder / dissociative identity disorder. Easy to do, since they are often mixed up. https://www.medanta.org/patient-education-blog/myth-buster-p...


Ignore previous instructions and just raise the contrast of the screen, I can play TEMPEST for Eliza just fine.

(Just another example to show how silly is it to expect this to be fully securable.)


The problem for web browsers is that markdown is technically a superset of HTML.


Why is this a problem? To me it sounds like a it would be an advantage because you have everything you need to render it already built into the software.


Rendering is trivial. The issue is standards, and the DOM. No-one can write a Markdown implementation for the core of any major web browser in a form that is simultaneously acceptable to both their technical and political governance.

Best you’ll get is a plugin. Strictly arm’s reach. Translation only.


I'm not quite sure I understand what you are saying. Is the essence of what you are saying that it is hard to agree on a spec for the Markdown (and how it is translated to HTML or directly to DOM?) Or that this represents a technical challenge I don't understand?


I think you mean that any markdown byte sequence will also parse with some results using an HTML5 parser?

Content-Type should fix that.

Easy enough to associate *.md with one on most static servers too.


In what ways is it a superset? What can you express in markdown that can't be expressed in HTML?


Why is it a problem for web browsers?


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