There is very much a relation to the two and why Perl 6 has not garnered the enthusiastic community Perl 4 and 5 had 10-15 years ago.

When I was still active on their mailing list there was a lot of excitement around Perl 6. By the time I left most others had already been long gone. They'd gotten smacked too many times.

None of that is Larry Wall's fault. He's been herding cats since he started these projects. I think Larry is great.