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Just want to point out that it's not always a planned scam on buyer's side. Actual item might be stolen/replaced on customs, post office, some package sorting facility or even by your neighbors.

For a buyer eBay is a great place because everything is protected and you can always get a refund.

For a seller, I guess you either have to accept the risk, or get some kind of insurance.

Overall, I think auction places always attract scams, so there always be some risks involved.



> everything is protected and you can always get a refund.

Hardly. No guarantee that anything is authentic or not stolen. No refunds outside the return window. And you need to know how to use ebay to force your refund. If your return package fails, you'd need to go through all of the USPS insurance hoops. And the protection ebay offers is the same protection most credit card companies offer which is also similar to what paypal offers... so this idea that "ebay provides safety" is a delusion.

> you either have to accept the risk, or get some kind of insurance.

That's not the point. The point is, ebay doesn't give a shit, and there is no "some kind of insurance".

> auction places always attract scams

As do all monetary transactions.


> For a seller, I guess you either have to accept the risk, or get some kind of insurance.

Or eBay pays the insurance cost out of the fees they charge.


It's hard to prove anything without some type of escrow service. It'd be cool if eBay offered such a service for an additional fee.


...are you joking or serious?


What's wrong with the notion of an escrow service? For high value items the extra protection may be worth it.


AIUI you just described Paypal, which they not only provide, but also make mandatory, and part of their mandatory fee pays for insurance.


PayPal doesn't put the item in escrow.


Hardly.

An escrow service would be a neutral company that would intercept items and returns to make sure they were the correct item and in the correct condition.


Ebay offered escrow services for years prior to purchasing and integrating PayPal. I wasn't trying to be rude, I was trying to figure out if you were doing the old "if only <such and such> existed" when it actually does/did exist.


eBay are partnered with escrow.com to offer this service (which, I admit is different from offering it themselves, but it's there in that form).


Yes, it can be tampered with anywhere along the way. I've heard of bricks or even jars of tomato sauce showing up instead of expensive electronics shipped from Amazon's warehouse.




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