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Reminder for anyone who used a Pebble: Your data will have been sold to FitBit and so Google now gets it. Yay!


That would be a drop in ocean compared to the data they have on you if you are using Android and Google other products


I still have the original Kickstarter pebble. Other than my email address and the apps I installed, I can't think of any data at risk.


There's not much data in there and it's probably not worth even worth importing given that Fitbit data is 1000x larger at least.


How? By default the official Pebble app notoriously only stored the data on the phone (and reinstalling it lost all history).


Did you ever read the privacy policy that went with that app? It stated in weaselly but still quite clear words that they were entitled to record and sell your everything for whatever reason.

Maybe they didn't actually do that but they demanded the right to do so and I never managed to make them (or their lawyers) deny it (which, let's face it, was all I wanted - I just wanted to use my watch without them using it or the companion phone app as a trojan to perv on my life.)


Good. I'd prefer Google has it over Pebble or Fitbit.


Assuming Google legitimately doesn't try to retain deleted data as they claim, you just need to delete your Fitbit account before the acquisition closes to ensure Google never lays hands on it.


That doesn't really follow. Not retaining data is something that has to be built into a product, and so would need to have been done by Fitbit.


I'm in the middle of deleting my Fitbit account. It takes 90 days, so hopefully this deal doesn't close quickly...


How does it take 90 days? If that's true then Google is absolutely aware of this and will make sure to take ownership of it prior to then.


Google fully deletes their user data when requested, I'm not sure why malice over data retention is being assumed here.


Do they? Or do they just anonymize it?

Companies don't like to destroy assets.

I don't think anybody is assuming malice, just incompetence. There are precedents after all.


Disclaimer: I work at Google.

And even on the smaller service I work on, we go through privacy review. Generally user-data is coupled to user account identifiers and deleted when accounts are deleted.

This is the easiest, as your retention plan is automatically approved this way :)

All data stores are mapped to retention plans. So you don't accidentally forget something.

For anonymization there is some logic which ensures the smallest slice is small enough that users can't be identified.

Now, all of this is generally and of course there are exceptions -- but these are a lot of work to get. You need to have good reasons to get exceptions, it takes a long time. So if you want to ship on time, you delete data when it's no longer needed, etc.

Exceptions are usually when it would hurt another user to delete something shared, for example..

Sure, incompetence can happen. But Google doesn't have a lengthy record of security holes, data leaks or privacy issues. (I'm sure you can find a few, but my point is that this isn't Yahoo)


> you delete data when it's no longer needed

The data is deleted, but probably not the products developed from the data. For example, Google may pick up from my email that I have a Subaru and if I delete that email, they may lose track of what exact car I have, but I bet they still know I have a car.


I wouldn't blame anyone for not trusting them, but here's their page on it:

https://policies.google.com/technologies/retention?hl=en


I don't think merely anonymizing data when the user requested deletion is GDPR compliant.


Does GDPR cover generated insights about that data?


Assuming you have a fitbit account. I don’t. But I did own and use a Pebble for many years.




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