Of course! I guess my point is-- we should be doing any and all of these things, and the west should be investing as much as it takes, because the long-term payoff is worth it ten times over.

Yes absolutely. But then again any kind of these comments gets downvoted immediately here as well. The perception of this topic is: "Nothing to worry about, growth is decreasing anyway. Also, don't blame other people, just start reducing your own CO2 footprint. Which is sad."