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no, the end result is not the same either way.

I'm not taking sides on privacy or the threat of govt (or other sourced) tyranny, I'm just explaining the logic to answer your question:

Let's say you engaged in a long history of using protonmail innocently, then one day you decided to start commiting crimes for the first time and attract police interest. You would know that your historical logs were not kept, and it was only after you started attracting police attention that you would be at risk of incriminating yourself through proton mail. Maybe, on the run from the law, it would be safe for you to hide at your old friends house because there was no log to link you to him.

Yes, it is also the case that you may not have realized that ordinary behavior had been criminalized by an evil govt all along blah blah blah... I'm just pointing out that there is a difference where you saw none.



I said the end result is the same. Not that it is the same. In both case they give the IP when the police ask for it


In both cases they don't give the IP.

in the case where they receive a court order, they first log your IP and then they give it.

but you know this from their terms of service.

if you stop using protonmail when you start your criminal career, they will not give your IP because they didn't save it.

it's different in the end, not the same.


If you knew this, couldn't you login from someone's ip you want to frame the crime on?




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