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> it seems that you can either have police brutality and criminalized homelessness or you can have non-enforcement

NYC shows you can have broken policies AND do a better job on homelessness.

NYPD brutality, stop-and-frisk, broken windows, "it's Giuliani time" -- the cruelty of the NYPD is long-standing and well-documented.

Yet, NYC has done a massively better job directly addressing homelessness than SF.

SF's vaunted liberalism is largely for show. This is where a homophobic psychopath murdered the mayor and supervisor and was hailed as a hero by many residents. This is where massively corrupt machine politicians like Willie Brown feathered their nests. This is a city with some of the worst-managed public housing in the country, and neighborhoods like Hunter's Point awash in toxic chemicals.

This is a relatively tiny city with economic inequality and effective segregation outpacing cities many times it's size.

Just because they've elected a progressive DA here and there (and then recalled them LOL) doesn't change the ugliness underneath.



I only entered this comment section to watch the trash fire, and without making any observation on any other aspect of your comment (or any other for that matter) but - the Milk assassination was, what, almost 50 years ago? Surely that can’t be terribly dispositive of what the city is today.

(I do think there’s probably an indication there about the attitudes of “old San Francisco” - but how much of that generation is left at this point?)


> 50 years ago? Surely that can’t be terribly dispositive of what the city is today

It's relevant because at the time, like today, SF was seen as exhibit A of liberalism run amok, and yet couldn't unite against a homophobic assassination of their own elected officials.

Now, the zeitgeist insists that SF's broken homeless policies come from misplaced liberal compassion as opposed to a long history of neglect and corruption, which was particularly acute toward hispanic and black communities.


Very interesting and valid point. Thank you for the explanation.




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