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Unity shuts two offices because of credible threats (arstechnica.com)
35 points by mrcwinn on Sept 14, 2023 | hide | past | favorite | 29 comments


Gamers can be a really audience scary sometimes. Several developers I know have been doxxed because of delayed releases or dumped features.


"gamers" aren't really a unified group any more than "movie watchers" are. Its useful for marketing to pretend so, but the only thing they share is they sometimes play video games.


Nah, capital-g Gamers are a different breed than people who play video games.


capital g gamers is just a marketing term to try to convince people to buy RGB bling and overpriced accessories. Again, the only thing they all share in common is that they play games, which are entirely mainstream at this point.


Definitely don't agree. There's a difference in people who need support groups to tell them if a game is "too woke" for them / send death threats and people who have RGB.


Perhaps you might be referring to something closer to Gamergaters?


Toxic nerd fandoms do not directly map onto the far-right. Sure, there's overlap, but not all of them share those politics or are even political. There's also plenty of people who'd tar, feather, and run someone out of town on a rail for not being woke enough. Or who just have meltdowns about how the minute something isn't quite the way they wanted it, it's "TOTALLY RUINED!!"

Some small fraction of all of these weirdos would be willing to call in a death threat or actually follow through.


It sounds like you've made up your own definition for something you already disliked and just call it gamers. Anyone reading resetera will know you don't have to be a right wing troll to be toxic.


Feels like you're missing the distinction I made. I'm not saying gamers are bad. I spend a lot of my time with games, I avoid the term for myself but am not calling gamers toxic by any means.


We can call it whatever we want but it's a shame it's such a frequent occurance in the games industry. Is it due to the news focusing on video games, or is there something disproportionately odd that attracts that folks to games?


https://www.dexerto.com/gaming/unity-employee-reportedly-for...

So it turns out the threat came from...a unity employee. Not 'Gamers'.

Do you understand how ridiculous all this gamers talk was?


Yeah, that makes it worse. Someone whose job it is to work on games (or at least, work with peope who make games) decided to burn their career over threatening their boss. And since it's someone who is an employee they can go postal or have accomplices.

I don't really care about the wide generalizations, I didn't make them and it's not productive to dwell on them. It's the internet, report and ignore. But I really hate how some people were downplaying this and saying it was a conspiracy all because they are mad at a CEO. Can we both hate corporate greed AND death threats, please?


Personally I think it's the latter.

Edit: And I don't think it's only attractors, I think there's not enough detractors to toxic players.


https://www.dexerto.com/gaming/unity-employee-reportedly-for...

Turns out the scary party was a unity employee, not 'Gamers'.


See also:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37512512 - Unity cancels town hall over reported death threats (theverge.com)

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37510958 - Video-Game Company Unity Closes Offices Following Death Threat (bloomberg.com)


step 1 of crisis management - become the victim


While yes, frequently this is true, there are a lot of unhinged people that will make death/bomb threats against people/organizations they have beef with.

Most of the time, these threats are completely meaningless with no intent of follow-through. But can you take that chance?


There are a lot of rich people that believe they have impunity to screw over whoever they want to with no repercussions.

Solve that, and the rest of the problem goes away.


And obviously the employees and engineers working on unity made the choice about these policies, right?


> While yes, frequently this is true, there are a lot of unhinged people that will make death/bomb threats against people/organizations they have beef with.

This is why crisis management firms recommend step one so frequently. It works.


They allege that there were bomb threats.


Crazy shit happened in the past for less substantial reasoning

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kyoto_Animation_arson_attack


Are you saying that they made up the calls? Or that they made the calls themselves?


It’s really impossible to know unless the cops arrest the people who made the threats and get a conviction.

I think it’s much more likely they the threats are overblown to benefit Unity from a PR perspective than that anyone is actually planning violence against Unity employees.


Nah, it happens often enough that you don't want to take that chance. Even Unity doesn't want to take that risk, if only for the reason if being sued by victims because they didn't follow due diligence.

UPDATE: https://www.polygon.com/23873727/unity-credible-death-threat...

> San Francisco police told Polygon that officers responded to Unity’s San Francisco office “regarding a threats incident.” A “reporting party” told police that “an employee made a threat towards his employer using social media.” The employee that made the threat works in an office outside of California, according to the police statement.

well there's your story. Even worse than I thought. Why would a Unity employee of all people do this instead of simply walking away from the job? No one's going to hail you as a hero for this.


step 1 of running a business - keep your employees safe


If that were true we wouldn't have needed to make OSHA


I didn’t say everyone follows step 1


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