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How Miles Davis hired John Coltrane (honest-broker.com)
146 points by paulpauper on March 11, 2024 | hide | past | favorite | 16 comments


A few lessons from this: First, intense passion, endless practice and infinite persistence are all prerequisites. They are the bare minimum of artistic greatness. They don't guarantee greatness, but you won't find any greats who didn't have these attributes.

Secondly, it's remarkable that you can languish for half a decade as a barely functional junkie in a second city and still make a comeback. We should all hold this dearly to our hearts. You are going to take major losses in life. Maybe you get fired, don't get hired, don't get funding, your startup goes bankrupt, or whatever flavor of personal problems you can imagine. If you can regain your health and your discipline you can still make a comeback.

Finally, Coltrane, Davis and Evans were all polar opposites in terms of personality. Coltrane was very religious, Davis seemed to always have a raincloud following him around, and Evans was known for being what we might today call emo. But when they could put these personal differences aside and focus on the art they were collaborating on the result was lightning in a bottle. We should remember this the next time we find someone with immense talent or reputation who at first glance seems to be of little use as a friend. If you're not getting along with someone, keep your focus on the end goal and that usually smoothes all the little problems over.

If you're interested in more John Coltrane lore I recommend this interview of Ben Ratliff who wrote the book on Coltrane.[0] He goes over his mercurial early days in detail, and plays all of the tracks that Coltrane would have been listening to during his formative years.

[0] https://www.nts.live/shows/coltrane-day/episodes/coltrane-da...


Yes to all that you've said, and in a completely different genre, one of the greatest comebacks from "barely functional junkie" was John Frusciante, who looks way healthier in his 50s than he did in his 20s.

Back to Coltrane, it's incredible he lived just a little over a decade after the events in the article, and just how much and how different music he put out (as band member or leader) in those last years of his life.

I'm an atheist, but for lack of better words, from what I get out of his music and how his life turned out, I feel Coltrane was a human with a soul too big for his body to handle.


essence of this comment —-

the singular reason me love HN


Miles sounded like a tough dude to work for. I’m surprised none of these comments mention that.

I totally agree with his bandleader philosophy: hire good people, and give them space in the music to play. But his constant bad attitude must have been really impactful to folks in his band.

I suppose, in some ways, that helped his overall success, and those of his sidemen. Everyone who played with him eventually moved on. That got new blood in his band to play off of, while the alumni went on to start new projects.

Either way: I don’t think anything could have brought me back to the fold after a week of lousy rehearsals with a tough bandleader. Guess that’s what separates me from John Coltrane, lol


Probably John Coltrane was pissed but then realized, damn, that was really good music happening in there. Screw it, but i'm out as soon as the last note is done.


Also, Miles Davis had an outstanding taste for pianists. Every piano player that joined Miles was a force of nature.


Every drummer, bassist and guitarist too! It's insane how so many of them later on went on to pioneer the fusion movement.

Joe Zawinul, Chick Corea, John McLaughlin, John Scofield, Tony Williams, Marcus Miller and so on!


Now I'm forced to listen to: https://youtu.be/ccLyWMazMT8?feature=shared&t=98

(I might even have to dig my vinyl of that album out and annoy my neighbours with it on the weekend.)


Wow, that was awesome


particularly loved the intro. i had a scroll through the rest, didnt quite catch my ear, but man that first 1.30 was magic :D


Cobham!


Red Garland fan club roll call.


I have to rank Wynton Kelly above him, but respect to Red for sure.


I'd argue taste is what made Miles so great, it was exceptional in all things.


Taste is arguably the number one requirement to be a great artist. You can't make great art if you don't have great taste in inspration, collaborators, mentors, and finally output


Ditto. Hail Bill Evans.




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