If the cyclist is following the rules there's no reason to hate them as you pointed out. And I don't think cyclists are better than drivers (i know its a long post, but i did say 50% of cyclists ignore rules. Actually its more than drivers IMO. But that may be specific to SF, I don't know.)
Note that if you turn after a stop and you almost kill a cyclist it means that you are mostlikely turning RIGHT. Because cyclists almost never go on the LEFT.
It means also that you're not in the proper lane for making a right turn. You have to go in the bike lane BEFORE stopping. The bike lane is a lane like every other lane, unless both lanes are "forced turn right". I've never seen a bike lane that was "forced turn right" however (or the lane next to the bike lane for that matter)
Incorrect. I'm talking about 4 way stops where I've already stopped and am entering the intersection when a bike coming from another lane ignores the stop sign and shoots in front of me. There is not many bike lanes where I live. That's not to mention turning right on a green light when the pedestrian sign is red, and bikes deciding that is the best time for them to cross using the crosswalk. This is in the far right lane, making a right hand turn on green light. Bikers need to be prosecuted for this stuff like cars, then they might learn. I do realize I am generalizing the other 50% that DO follow the rules, but the 50% that don't completely overshadow them.
Note that if you turn after a stop and you almost kill a cyclist it means that you are most likely turning RIGHT. Because cyclists almost never go on the LEFT.
It means also that you're not in the proper lane for making a right turn. You have to go in the bike lane BEFORE stopping. The bike lane is a lane like every other lane, unless both lanes are "forced turn right". I've never seen a bike lane that was "forced turn right" however (or the lane next to the bike lane for that matter)