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> On the minus side it's a little exhausting, and there's so much money in it feels like the vast majority of it is grifting.

It is all grifting. The moment someone creates something that can improve upon itself there will be an intelligence explosion and it won’t need press releases or debates about its intelligence. The current path of research will not lead to that, if there was something to be discovered here it would have been discovered already. It’s just new to the general consumer and there’s a wow factor associated with it like crypto and NFTs before. The truth is tech has lost its momentum and is desperate to find a new trick.



The rate of improving is important. If it's as intelligent as the average human, the rate of improving will be slow, very slow compared to what the researcher can do currently.


I think the opposite. There is value in intelligent software, but IMO we’re a long way from AGI. So lots of grifting but some gold along the way. And it’s intellectually interesting/nuanced (cool math, interesting infra), unlike crypto which was more of a massive energy burning waste than anyone likes to admit.


If our standard is cool math, crypto is also full of cool math. (Have you read Vitalik's explanation of Quadratic Arithmetic Programs?) Our standard can't be that low.

https://medium.com/@VitalikButerin/quadratic-arithmetic-prog...


Fair enough. More reacting to the concept of a blockchain which is like old news and an extremely inefficient way to do 90% of what people are (we’re) trying to do with it.

Will read!


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