There are dozens more that you can find easily with a quick search, and these alone support my point.
> Google constnatly double dips
Sure, maybe they're not the best choice. Let's use Apple instead.
> Gemini
> And they are double dipping on their own services by selling to AI to train their data
Other forms of double dipping than ads aren't on topic, relevant, or productive for this thread which was specifically about micro transactions not replacing ads because of double dipping. (yes, the problem is real - see later)
> WOW charges subscriptions and for cosmetics in game
Also off topic, but here I don't even see a problem. Unlike ads being involuntarily shoved down your throat, you're not compelled to buy cosmetics.
> It won't be ads for you today. It probably will be tomorrow
This is very speculative, and not supported by the hundreds of SaaS products that do not, even those that have been around for years.
> We're doomed without a fundamental shift in how society consumes content.
Like microtransactions?
Moreover, none of this addresses my points that if you get rid of ads (or user data harvesting), you still have to replace it with something else, and that utx will reduce the pressure to do these other things.
Sure, ultimately you'll need regulation to get rid of user data harvesting, and maybe ads too, but I'm confused as to why "double dipping" is being brought up as an argument against utx after those things are gone - they're almost orthogonal.
There are dozens more that you can find easily with a quick search, and these alone support my point.
> Google constnatly double dips
Sure, maybe they're not the best choice. Let's use Apple instead.
> Gemini
> And they are double dipping on their own services by selling to AI to train their data
Other forms of double dipping than ads aren't on topic, relevant, or productive for this thread which was specifically about micro transactions not replacing ads because of double dipping. (yes, the problem is real - see later)
> WOW charges subscriptions and for cosmetics in game
Also off topic, but here I don't even see a problem. Unlike ads being involuntarily shoved down your throat, you're not compelled to buy cosmetics.
> It won't be ads for you today. It probably will be tomorrow
This is very speculative, and not supported by the hundreds of SaaS products that do not, even those that have been around for years.
> We're doomed without a fundamental shift in how society consumes content.
Like microtransactions?
Moreover, none of this addresses my points that if you get rid of ads (or user data harvesting), you still have to replace it with something else, and that utx will reduce the pressure to do these other things.
Sure, ultimately you'll need regulation to get rid of user data harvesting, and maybe ads too, but I'm confused as to why "double dipping" is being brought up as an argument against utx after those things are gone - they're almost orthogonal.