The "whatever that means" isn't a judgement jab at your point, merely acknowledging the hand waving of my own with "good enough".
I hope this comment thread helps with your cheeky jab that I might have a problem understanding or using casual language.
I'm not sure if it's moving the goalpost or not to back away from a strong claim that LLMs are at the "good enough" (whatever that means!) level now and instead fall back to "some devs will just ship it and therefore that's good enough, by definition".
Regardless, I think we agree that, if LLMs are "good enough" in this way then we can think a lot less about code and logic and instead focus on prompts and feature requests.
I just don't think we agree on what "good enough" is, if current LLMs produce it with less effort than alternatives, and if most devs already believe the LLM generated code is good enough for that.
I use LLMs for a lot of dev work but I haven't personally seen these things one- or even many- shot things to the level I'd feel comfortable being on call for.
>I just don't think we agree on what "good enough" is, if current LLMs produce it with less effort than alternatives, and if most devs already believe the LLM generated code is good enough for that.
Don't need to consider what they think, one can just see their "revealed preferences", what they actually do. Which for the most part is adopting agents.
>I use LLMs for a lot of dev work but I haven't personally seen these things one- or even many- shot things to the level I'd feel comfortable being on call for.
That's true for many devs one might have working for their team as well. Or even one's self. So we review, we add tests, and so on. So we do that when the programming language is a "real" programming language too, doesn't have to change when it is natural language to an agent. What I'm getting at, is, that this is not a show stopper to the point of TFA.
I hope this comment thread helps with your cheeky jab that I might have a problem understanding or using casual language.
I'm not sure if it's moving the goalpost or not to back away from a strong claim that LLMs are at the "good enough" (whatever that means!) level now and instead fall back to "some devs will just ship it and therefore that's good enough, by definition".
Regardless, I think we agree that, if LLMs are "good enough" in this way then we can think a lot less about code and logic and instead focus on prompts and feature requests.
I just don't think we agree on what "good enough" is, if current LLMs produce it with less effort than alternatives, and if most devs already believe the LLM generated code is good enough for that.
I use LLMs for a lot of dev work but I haven't personally seen these things one- or even many- shot things to the level I'd feel comfortable being on call for.