I'm glad you're overt about this. And, my opposition here is not because of any issues with delivery of welfare by faith based organisations, the days of juice church to get the bums lunch is long gone. My concern is the ability of the state welfare budget to be cut because statutory rights to aide are replaced by voluntarism and discretionary spend which can be withdrawn at will.

The fight for the welfare state was a long battle in the UK, across the depression and war. Thatcher would have unwound it even more if it hadn't been electoral suicide and the same is true in the US, albeit diluted.

I'm not trying to convince you of anything here, really I'm just pleased this is overt and conscious.