For a list of intelligent discussions that quickly go libertarian apeshit, merely find any Reddit.com/r/politics or reddit.com/r/economics dicussion regarding the bank bailout or the Obama-planned economic stimulus (which, according to some dicussions has already failed, will never work, or is proof that non-libertarian governments are inherently socialist.)
To be fair, that same discussion will also claim that the need for the bailout is proof that libertarianism has already failed, that Milton Friedman was the dictator of Chile and that the infallible analogy to today's ciris is a babysitting club.
